The 1080, like it's predcessors (780 and 980) has consistently been the red headed stepchild of the nVidia lineup. $400 for a 1070 is objectively a bad value when $500 gets you into a 1080. It's the worst value in the 10-series lineup. MSI's black and red color scheme should be familiar by now, similar to the card's shape.ġ9761822 said:Disagree entirely about the 1070 being good value. Six- and eight-pin auxiliary power connectors are positioned at the end of the card and rotated by 180°. The top of the card is dominated by an illuminated MSI logo and three visible heat pipes (two 6mm and one 8mm). That's why we had to abstain from running the card without its backplate, limiting our view during the IR temperature testing. Furthermore, the screws attaching the backplate have threaded portions that are too short to secure the frame and VRM cooler once the plate is gone. Using the card without its backplate proved difficult due to integrated spacers. Unfortunately, this backplate makes it necessary to plan for an extra 5mm of clearance behind the card, which may be relevant in multi-GPU configurations. Given the above ROI numbers, I am surprised that all the 1080s have not dropped below $500.The back of the board is covered by a single-piece plate with some holes for ventilation, but it doesn't contact the PCB through thermal pads and consequently does nothing for cooling. Finally, the 1080 bears the burden of being compared with the 780 and 980 whicc again got lost between the higher / lower cards. (example being EVGA SC / FTW ACX designs are now fixed but but EVGA still has a black eye from the earlier cooler problems and if buying EVGA, peeps want iCX. but if a card is selling well below the average price it is because it's not as well made or just isn't selling for real or imagined issues. low factory clock, noise or heat concerns, some have taken some hits from bad reviews or are discounted simply because sales are poor. And yes, there will cards that are heavily discounted for any number of reasons. How is it that the $550 models have more sales than the less expensive ones ? Some folks don't care about noise, some folks don't OC, some folks hope they will be able to get the full performance available to us **if** someone ever comes out with a BIOS editor. It's not a matter **if** you can get **a** 1080 at $500., it's whether you can get the one you want. whereas the cost penalty for the increased performance to move up to from the 1080 to 1080 Ti is only 1.7% This is why eacxh time the Ti has been introduced, 1080 sales have tanked.ġ070 => 1080 = 23% performance increase for $146 ROI = 15.8%ġ080 => 1080 Ti = 32% performance increase for $190 ROI = 16.8 % you are paying a 10.7% cost penalty for the increased performance to move up to from the 1070 to 1080. We get a rather teeny 1.7 drop of 0.004 from the 1080 to the 1080 Ti We get a whopping 10.7 drop of 0.025 from the 1070 to the 1080 You'd expect that for each increase in performance the % increase in price per dollar would get bigger. So we should expect to pay more per each performance gain with each incremental increase and that hold here. It's simply another example of Law of Diminishing Returns. You more of a cost premium going from Gold to Platinum rating on a PSU than you do from Bronze to Silver of even Gold. Now with any technology, eeking those last bits of performance out anything always comes at a increased cost. Looked at other comparable as a means of comparison and they are for the most par equal or higher. the 1080 only comes in 2nd place at 0.256, so no, the better value argument doesn't hold, even assuming we were getting an equal quality card. So the cost per dollar for comparable quality designs is: The $7 Ti Gaming X is 169.5% as fast as the 1070 FE The $5 Gaming X is 128.2% as fast as the 1070 FE The $4 Gaming X is 104.2% as fast as the 1070 FE Using the 1070 FE as a reference and the relative performance data published by techpowerup for example.Used MSI Gaming model since it is one model line where TPU reviewed all 3 cards When the 780 Ti came out, the price of the $780 dropped $160 overnight, so much so that I immediately bought two of them and the two sets of game coupons knocked $360 off my XMas shoping list. The 1080 has dropped in price because, sitting as it does between the 1080 Ti and the 1070. So much so that nVidia even intentionally nerfed the performance of the x70 series because its performance was so close to the x80. 19761822 said:Disagree entirely about the 1070 being good value.
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